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A Meeting with Young Israelis

Anna Dobranowska

Foundation of Christian Culture ZNAK

15 April 2002

In Krakow a group of Polish students met with students from Israel taking part in the March of the Living.


It turned out (Poles have known this for generations) that the best meeting place in Krakow is the marketplace - at the monument of Adam Mickiewicz. There was no problem in identifying the guests - they were the biggest group at the monument, with the assistance of stout guards. It is hard to tell whether our surprised looks (when we saw the guards) were a result of naiveté or (the latter would be better) a faith in people and their goodwill.


There was some confusion at the monument. It is hard to communicate with one hundred people at the same time. Someone always tries to control such chaos - in vain, naturally. Eventually we managed to sit in one of the restaurants at Szewska Street with a group of about 15. Since the pub did not have an English menu, we started by translating the essential word "beer" into English. There were no problems with kosherness, because one of the world's largest soft drink companies produces "clean" beverages.


First we introduced ourselves and exchanged opinions about the weather in Israel and Krakow. The guests studied at various Israeli universities. Not all willing managed to come; the ultimate decision about who joined the trip to Poland depended on a preliminary interview. Advanced students were more privileged; they had to prove a certain knowledge of history and demonstrate a proper attitude. As one of the guests explained, the current situation demands a "strengthening" of their identity and this is the main goal of the trip to Poland.


As far as names go, the Polish party was far less original. Our names cannot be translated, while the names of almost all the guests meant something - for example "Lord above me" or "Be happy". "Light" topics soon disappeared, however. Maybe because someone jokingly asked: "Who is that guy who's taking pictures of us all the time? A secret service agent?" (It was the Forum Znak photographer.) Later conversations were dominated by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The discussion was quite fierce. Questions were asked about the justification for actions undertaken by the Israeli armed forces. Explanations followed, usually starting with "look at it from my perspective..." However, how can one identify with a young man of 25 who, instead of studying at the university, has been serving in the Israeli army and after coming back from Poland is obliged to return to his unit? Until recently he was in the reserve but because of the exceptionality of the situation he has been called up to active service. He is tired of such questions and discussions - he does not want to kill just as he does not want to get killed. One heard statements like: "I don't believe in peace".


"Don't you see a solution to this problem?" one of the Poles asked.


"No, because they [the Palestinians] always, when we approach a peaceful solution, raise the question of Palestinian refugees and their return. The state of Israel was created for Jews - it is not an Israeli-Palestinian formation. And this is why there will be no peace."


"But how long can you live in a state of war?"


"I don't know; I can't answer that question."


Someone else pointed out the cultural differences between Palestinians and Israelis which make an agreement impossible. Still, he found it difficult to name them in English and admitted it would have been hard for him in Hebrew as well. Palestinians make up about thirty percent of the students at his university. He characterized their mutual relations as "cool" - which is not only a result of recent events. This have been the case since he started studying at the university. Our colleague admitted that he would not talk to Palestinian fellow-students as openly as he did during our meeting.


One has to especially note the reasonable opinions of a girl whose name meant "Be happy". During the discussion, others raised their voices while she remained calm and persuasive. She also tried to give us a picture of Israel so that we could see the situation from her perspective:


"You don't know what it means to live in an endangered country. Why do I have to feel guilty because the Israeli army is stronger and was not defeated by attacks of Arab states, but, instead, managed to move their borders? It is not my fault our prime minister is the way he is. I know he could be better, but there is nothing I can do about it..."


Later the group went for a walk to the Kazimierz district and took part in the celebrations of Holocaust Remembrance Day. From the ceremony at the Old Synagogue most of us did not understand a word. But maybe this was unnecessary - it was not that difficult to guess what all these prayers, songs, recitations and speeches meant.


What memories remain from that meeting? The conclusion that there are no simple answers and solutions; that a black-and-white description of the world is rarely accurate. Also, I listen to news from the Middle East differently now - I recall familiar faces and Israeli friends.


Anna Dobranowska